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Grasshopperglock
July 9th, 2021, 4:21 PM
Oh my goodness. Texas gave a big middle finger to the feds.

To buy a suppressor the federal way. You walk into a gun shop. Lay down money plus an extra $200. You fill out BATF paperwork. 6 months later and if the feds say ok. The gun shop calls you and tells you to come get your property.

The fly in the soup is it's registered. Meaning you can't sell the suppressor unless the next guy goes through the same paperwork and wait time. Another thing is the fly took a crap in the soup. Meaning the BATF can show up at your house and legally demand to inspect your firearm accessory.

Texas is a 2nd amendment sanitary. Come Sep 1, 2021. Federal law doesn't apply on Texas soil. So not only can you freely buy a suppressor without the BATF paperwork. You can also make your own.

Here's a video on the subject showing the laws.

https://youtu.be/0abWKap3nK8


Here's where you can buy a 'solvent trap'.


https://www.preppersdiscount.com



If your heart desires to use a NAPA oil filter as a suppressor. Go for it after September the first. (Yes it most definitely works). Look for a barrel adapter for a NAPA oil filter # 24003. It'll be called a solvent trap. You know, it catches barrel cleaning fluid from dropping on the carpet.....Lolololol.

Grasshopperglock
July 9th, 2021, 4:26 PM
Another link for you guys.

https://solventtrapsdirect.com


Have some fun and enjoy your rights. The Texas way.

Grasshopperglock
July 9th, 2021, 4:31 PM
Here's what a solvent trap adapter looks like. The male threads fit the NAPA oil filter.


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Rick
July 9th, 2021, 5:53 PM
Oh my goodness. Texas gave a big middle finger to the feds.

To buy a suppressor the federal way. You walk into a gun shop. Lay down money plus an extra $200. You fill out BATF paperwork. 6 months later and if the feds say ok. The gun shop calls you and tells you to come get your property.

The fly in the soup is it's registered. Meaning you can't sell the suppressor unless the next guy goes through the same paperwork and wait time. Another thing is the fly took a crap in the soup. Meaning the BATF can show up at your house and legally demand to inspect your firearm accessory.

Texas is a 2nd amendment sanitary. Come Sep 1, 2021. Federal law doesn't apply on Texas soil. So not only can you freely buy a suppressor without the BATF paperwork. You can also make your own.

Here's a video on the subject showing the laws.

https://youtu.be/0abWKap3nK8


Here's where you can buy a 'solvent trap'.


https://www.preppersdiscount.com



I ordered my suppressor on April 26th. I figured with months of recovering from shoulder replacement was the perfect time to wait for the feds.

Funny how the government trusts me enough to have a security clearance, but I have to wait for a tool to help kill invasive hogs.

Grasshopperglock
July 9th, 2021, 6:51 PM
Hey, other states legalized weed. That's a federal no no. They're doing the exact same thing as Texas. Except were doing it for gun "mufflers".

Hee Hee

Grasshopperglock
July 9th, 2021, 9:44 PM
Here's some info.

When you use a suppressor. The first shot will be the loudest. When the suppressor is cold. There's a smidge of oxygen inside it. The gases are fueled by that slight bit of atmospheric oxygen. Once it's used up. The sound level drops quite a bit. The sequential shot blast traveling behind the bullet are expelled in a zero oxygen atmosphere within the suppressor.

Using sub sonic ammo. Bullet speeds that are slower then the sound barrier. You avoid the sonic 'crack' when the bullet breaks that speed.

mac
July 9th, 2021, 11:28 PM
Bullet speeds that are slower then the sound barrier. You avoid the sonic 'crack' when the bullet breaks that speed.

actually the sonic crack isn't audible anyway unless the shooter is firing at you and came pretty close, and even then you hardly hear it. The first time I ever heard it was back in the day when I was pullin' targets on a KD range......sounds more like a barber scissor snip than a "crack"....mac

Grasshopperglock
July 10th, 2021, 2:53 PM
actually the sonic crack isn't audible anyway unless the shooter is firing at you and came pretty close, and even then you hardly hear it. The first time I ever heard it was back in the day when I was pullin' targets on a KD range......sounds more like a barber scissor snip than a "crack"....mac

Mr Mac. There's three sounds. One is the hot expanding gases hitting the cold air outside the barrel. It's the physics of thunder. A suppressor works by allowing time for the gases to cool before hitting the air outside the barrel.

The second sound is the bullet breaking the sound barrier.

Not many people have heard the sound barrier crack because the expanding gases are first. The sonic boom is behind the bullet because it's moving faster then the sound. If you're using a suppressor with full speed ammo. The sonic crack can be heard about 15 feet from the muzzle.

The third sound. The bullet always makes a sound going through the air. Its flight causes friction with air molecules. Making a wizzing sound.

Nothing is truly "Hollywood silent".

sojourner truth
July 10th, 2021, 5:20 PM
Use the Vito Corleone method and wrap a towel around the end of the barrel. Having had a bullet or 2 fly past me, I subscribe to the zip sound that happens. Or a Vhupp type noise. Once you hear that you know someone is trying to hurt you.:)

Grasshopperglock
July 10th, 2021, 5:35 PM
Don't go using a towel. It'll not only get you shot. It'll destroy accuracy.


If you stick a suppressor on. Don't think the zero will be the same. You can either re-zero the sights or clock the suppressor. Loosen it a 1/8 turn. Using washers to keep it tight. You don't need to go past 360 degrees. But some where in between is the sweet spot. Where mechanical harmonics are in sync. Then you can trust the zero between no suppressor and having it on. Same point of impact using either method.


Edit to add. If you have a quick change adapter. The adapter is what gets clocked on the barrel. Not the suppressor body to the quick change.

Rick
July 10th, 2021, 6:49 PM
My son has a couple suppressors. I have fired both subsonic and supersonic ammo with them.

The subsonic is pretty neat. You can hear the bullet hitting the target. If you've ever watched Seal Team on CBS, It's pretty close to how it sounds on that show.

Grasshopperglock
July 10th, 2021, 6:55 PM
The bolt slamming back makes the biggest racket. It's loud. Semi auto.

Bolt action is a world different.

AR15 with a suppressor. You gotta be close to hear it. It sounds loud to you but down range, not so much. Perception of the position.

Things make noise.

Rick
July 10th, 2021, 8:47 PM
My suppressor will be for both my AR 15 and this one, my .300 blk pistol. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210711/96ef45aaf8d8b209db946e5a0698b6d0.jpg

Rick
July 15th, 2021, 9:45 AM
You know what gets me about the whole suppressor garbage. You have to pay for a tax stamp and go through a background check waiting period for every suppressor you buy.

Ludwig
July 15th, 2021, 10:46 AM
You know what gets me about the whole suppressor garbage. You have to pay for a tax stamp and go through a background check waiting period for every suppressor you buy.Keeps people in the government employed and generates revenue. A win for them... not so much for you.

Rick
July 15th, 2021, 11:19 AM
For sure. I am not planning on getting more than one. Even without the tax stamp, they are still expensive.

Ludwig
July 15th, 2021, 11:46 AM
For sure. I am not planning on getting more than one. Even without the tax stamp, they are still expensive.But after September 1 you can get more without the hassle as long as it's made in Texas and you use it in Texas.

mac
July 15th, 2021, 11:53 AM
You know what gets me about the whole suppressor garbage. You have to pay for a tax stamp and go through a background check waiting period for every suppressor you buy.

Wow! I did not know that! Do you have to give up your model and serial# too? or date, time, and location of purchase........or who/what you purchased it from?.......mac

mac
July 15th, 2021, 11:57 AM
But after September 1 you can get more without the hassle as long as it's made in Texas and you use it in Texas.

and not only that, but some times you can buy 'em, have it 'fitted and attached here at one of the "greatest gun shows" when we have them in town....mac (first booth on the left when you walk in, here.......without any documentation what so ever.,.....well, I should prob'ly add, as recent as 6 years ago, at least..........mac

Rick
July 15th, 2021, 1:19 PM
Wow! I did not know that! Do you have to give up your model and serial# too? or date, time, and location of purchase........or who/what you purchased it from?.......mac
Each suppressor has to have it's own tax stamp.

Most of the dealers have the kiosk to apply. It's supposed to be faster and less prone to errors than filing paper applications.

I did mine through the Silencer Shop near Lakeline mall since someone who hunts on my property works there.

I'm getting the Dead Air Nomad https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/dead-air-nomad-l.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1YOnjVfGk

Rick
July 15th, 2021, 1:27 PM
But after September 1 you can get more without the hassle as long as it's made in Texas and you use it in Texas.

I wonder how many silencer dealers will actually participate in that since I am sure the feds will try to take their FFL and prosecute them if they do sell them.

Grasshopperglock
July 15th, 2021, 1:59 PM
I wonder how many silencer dealers will actually participate in that since I am sure the feds will try to take their FFL and prosecute them if they do sell them.

There's already been a couple of guys busted but it wasn't in Texas. They tried to make and sell them. Ruby Ridge type deal with a retail service.

The real value in this is being able to make your own for 1/5 the cost of a store bought. I'm sure some will be sold but it won't be through dealers. Someone will call it a solvent trap with internal cleaning holes. People sell completed 80 percent lowers but unless you're buying it. You won't know it's being sold. See no evil...

The biggy is the first people to find such a thing. The local police. Which are under zero pressure to submit the findings to the feds. It's not illegal in Texas.

mac
July 15th, 2021, 4:19 PM
There's already been a couple of guys busted but it wasn't in Texas. They tried to make and sell them. Ruby Ridge type deal with a retail service.

The real value in this is being able to make your own for 1/5 the cost of a store bought. I'm sure some will be sold but it won't be through dealers. Someone will call it a solvent trap with internal cleaning holes. People sell completed 80 percent lowers but unless you're buying it. You won't know it's being sold. See no evil...

The biggy is the first people to find such a thing. The local police. Which are under zero pressure to submit the findings to the feds. It's not illegal in Texas.

grasshopper: can you rework that phrase somehow? I don't understand it...........did you intend to type the word"unless" or is that s'posed to be something else?......mac

Grasshopperglock
July 15th, 2021, 4:27 PM
grasshopper: can you rework that phrase somehow? I don't understand it...........did you intend to type the word"unless" or is that s'posed to be something else?......mac


"People sell completed 80 percent lowers but if you're not the one buying it. You won't know it's being sold. See no evil..."

"Which are under zero pressure to report the findings to the feds."

mac
July 15th, 2021, 4:33 PM
"People sell completed 80 percent lowers but if you're not the one buying it. You won't know it's being sold. See no evil..."

"Which are under zero pressure to report the findings to the feds."
ok, i got it. one of the girls straightened me out.....mac

Grasshopperglock
July 15th, 2021, 4:44 PM
ok, i got it. one of the girls straightened me out.....mac

Mr Mac. Things that have no serial number. (A counter example being a store bought suppressor or lower receiver that does.) Can't be tracked. If you see some guy target shooting and it looks like he's using a 80% lower. Nobody has any idea if he built it, bought the CNC machine, 3d printed it, or bought it.

That's the whole drive behind this. Enjoying your rights to include the privacy they afford. No Federal government permanent file on your purchases or handy work.

Rick
July 15th, 2021, 5:51 PM
Lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210715/8084765eca6f703420a1fa06df1b2d54.jpg