Your 2020 Cleveland Indians!

[Rick]

Now that the 2019 baseball season is over, it's time to start talking about the 2020 Tribe.

1. They are optioning Kluber's $17.5 million option.

2. They reportedly will not exercise the options of Kipnis and Otero. They would like to keep Kipnis, but not at $16.5 million.

3. Bullpen coach Scott Atchison was fired after two years on the job. Good, now dump the batting coach! Mickey Calloway was fired by the Mets, maybe get him to come back...lol

4. Jose Ramirez told the Indians he would move to second base if they want him to next year. He just doesn’t want to bounce between second and third. So he’ll either play second or third next year depending on what kind of infield upgrade they can find.

5. Francisco Lindor will not be traded and will play for the Tribe next year.

6. Roberto Perez, is headed to Wisconsin to get a second opinion on his right ankle. Antonetti said he could have surgery, but it should not interfere too much with his offseason conditioning.

[Rick]

Cleveland traded Kluber to the Rangers for DeShlelds and a pitcher named Clase or something like that.

Not sure the is bad for the Tribe, he is 33 years old and spent most of last season hurt.

[sojourner truth]

The Rangers are famous for snapping up injured pitchers and hoping they can produce. Of course, they never do and wind up losing whatever talent they may once had as soon as they come to training camp.

I don't look at the Rangers doing anything again next season. Shame their new stadium caught fire yesterday.... Maybe we will get lucky and the Rangers will catch fire as well... Don't hold your breath.

[Rick]

I hadn't heard about the fire. How bad?

[fchafey]

Probably will be delayed quite a bit...

https://ballparkdigest.com/2019/12/15/after-globe-life-field-fire-construction-schedule-to-be-reviewed/

[sojourner truth]

Probably will be delayed quite a bit...

https://ballparkdigest.com/2019/12/15/after-globe-life-field-fire-construction-schedule-to-be-reviewed/

Well, the Rangers need more excuses for being crappy anyhow..:)) There hasn't been much released as to the cause or extent of damage for the fire.

[CenTexDave]

Thanks to Kluber for a great run. Think the Tribe is relying on Xarrasco to return to form.

[Rick]

Carrasco and Clevenger and whoever else they can get.

I'm sure Kluber has a few good games left in him, but doubt if he can go a full season anymore. He sure was awesome for the Tribe.

[sojourner truth]

Luck of the Rangers says he will probably fall on his face the minute he puts on the Ranger uniform. Most of their bullpen has had Tommy Johns surgery and are spotty at best. Makes me wonder how healthy Kluber is.

I too hope that Kluber can be a plus, but I suspect they will try and use him as a starter. Which has been a sore spot for them, as well as the bullpen, for years now. They had, last year, to resort to 3 starters they could probably count on to play a decent game, and then on days 4 and 5 rely on a "bullpen" day and put in 5 or 6 different relievers to play a game. And most of them were pitiful. The big money they spent for home run hitters has been wasted. It seems like once the guy gets his paycheck, he checks out of the batters box. At least they got rid of no hit Nomar Mazara.

The Rangers have a "good old boy" network that says anyone whom Elvis likes gets a free pass no matter how bad they are. I keep waiting for Roughned Odor to do something, and they keep saying how "over due" he is, but he just gets worse and worse every year. But he is Elvis' BFF so he is still around. Sad. It ain't east being a Rangers fan. Or A cowboys fan much either.

[CenTexDave]

Lots of interest in Clevinger. Hope the Tribe isn't stupid.

[Rick]

I think they'll keep these young guns they've developed.

[CenTexDave]

Yeah, still have them on their original contracts - in other words, cheapskate Dolan will keep them until they become free agents.

[Rick]

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[CenTexDave]

Got Clevinger for $4.1M - a real bargain. Lindor gets $17.5M. The others were $1M+.

[Rick]

Tribe took two of three from the Royals this weekend. Solid pitching. The bull#### extra linings rule is pathetic. Start with a runner on second, bunt him to third, then sac fly him home.

Kluber proved to be a good trade. Got hurt on his first outing for the Rangers. That's too bad too because I like him. Sad to see him go down hill so fast after two Cy Young seasons for the Indians.

[fchafey]

Your pitcher Carrasco made his first debut since his Leukemia diagnosis. That was good news too. I read it on the crawl watching a late game last night.

[sojourner truth]

That's ok... The Rangers got rid of Deshields too. Guess everyone is having a rough start this season. Hope the tribe goes all the way. The Rangers won their first game in the new stadium 1-0.. What a whoop. Since then... not so good.

[Rick]

:tribe Tribe won game one of a double header today. Yesterday's game against the White Sox was postponed until this afternoon. :tribe

[Rick]

:tribe tribe won game two 5-3.

[mac]

That's ok... The Rangers got rid of Deshields too. Guess everyone is having a rough start this season. Hope the tribe goes all the way. The Rangers won their first game in the new stadium 1-0.. What a whoop. Since then... not so good.

the rangers really got a tough start this year.....they'll prob'ly lose another one Saturday and then they got the giants and after that the A's for a series......no bueno!.....they'll be far in the cellar they 'll never get out....mac

[Rick]

:tribe got beat in the 9th last night. 4-0.

[CenTexDave]

Bieber tossed a 2 hit gem with 13 Is against the Twins the other night

[Rick]

The bats have been silent ever since. Same old thing with them. They need a batting coach.

[CenTexDave]

Pitching has been outstanding

[Rick]

Ya, too bad they aren't getting run support.

[fchafey]

Off topic, but your Blue Jackets won game 1 of their opening series with Toronto. Columbus is pretty good this year. Just offering an alternative, maybe even a happy one to the Tribe....:)

[Rick]

Tribe managed to eeek out a couple wins to beat Cincinnati, but still aren't scoring many runs.

[CenTexDave]

The card exploded tonight as Carrasco tossed a gem

[CenTexDave]

13-0. Ramirez homered twice

[CenTexDave]

And, poof, just like that the bats go silent and they fall 2-0 to the White Sox.

[Rick]

Then, they score 7 today.

[CenTexDave]

And Plescat tossed a gem

[Rick]

The pitching has been great. Hope they stay healthy.

[Rick]

Tonight's game was moved to whatever channel has the game of the week. ESPN, I think.

[Rick]

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[CenTexDave]

Guess it takes to play the Tigers to break out of their hitting slump. 8-4, Tribe. 5 homers

[Rick]

They have owned the Tigers the last few years.

[Rick]

Apparently, the leaders on the team took charge and dealt with Clevenger and Plesac's selfish actions regarding the rules and the rest of the team may have woken up. One of them said that if they were allowed back, he would opt out.

Four in a row and 8 of the last 11.

Santana hit a three run blast in the 10th. I don't think it has landed yet.

[Rick]

It's still in orbit!
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[CenTexDave]

Haven't been following them that close. What did Clevinger and Plesac do?

[Rick]

Haven't been following them that close. What did Clevinger and Plesac do?

When they were in Chicago, they went out after the game. That violates the protocol put in place by MLB. They forgot how lucky they are to be playing and they knew the rules. Francona sent Plesac home in a rental car, but Clevenger didn't admit it and flew home with the team and they found out after they arrived in CLE and sent him packing. Then, after their exile, they drove themselves to Detroit to join the team and the other players weren't having it.

[CenTexDave]

Guess once they make the grade they think they are above the rules

[CenTexDave]

Another gem for Bieber. Tribe wins 2-0. Bieber 11 Ks

[CenTexDave]

Clevinger And Plesac back with the team now. Definitely need them. Hopefully the offense returns with them. 31 games in and a couple of these hitters need to be cut. Ludlow batting under 100

[Rick]

Ya, they didn't show up for the Tigers and lost the first against the Twins. They won last night.

[CenTexDave]

They but last night. Now the White Sox are coming in strong

[Rick]

Both Chicago and the Indians are a half game behind Minnesota.

[CenTexDave]

Tribe playing St Louis on FS1. Already 4-0 Tribe, top of 1st. Reyes 3 run HR ,😁

[CenTexDave]

10-2, Tribe. 6th inning. Santana and Nyquin also went deep

[CenTexDave]

Oops. Now 12-2. Still too of the 6th ��

[CenTexDave]

Final 14-2. Bats were on fire

[Rick]

The way tie for first place now.

The bats need to stay on fire.

[Rick]

Dave, today's game is on KWKT.

[Rick]

Tribe wins 2-1 in 12 innings.

[CenTexDave]

Alone in first place!��

[Rick]

Tribe got shelled today, 7-2.

[CenTexDave]

But the Twins also lost

[CenTexDave]

Just read this. Good it's a joke. Tribe trades Clevinger, Mercado and Plutko to Yankees for Clint Frazier and 1 other player. Guess we never learned from the Maria, Nettles and Chambliss trades

[CenTexDave]

Was a joke. Clevinger and Greg Allen plus"player to be named later" traded to San Diego for 6 players, most of them prospects but hopefully an outfielder who can hit

[Rick]

We'll see how it works out.

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[CenTexDave]

Last year we had baseball's best starting rotation. So they trade Kluber and Bauer. This year we had an exceptional group. Now Clevinger is gone

[Rick]

The Kluber trade worked out since he got hurt in his first game this season. Clevenger's injuries are starting to mount up. Mckenzie is showing a lot of promise. Skinny kid throws really hard.

I like Bauer and think they should have kept him, but him losing his temper and throwing the ball over the fence last year sealed his fate in Cleveland. Tribe got Reyes for him and he is knocking the cover off the ball this year.

They pretty much have the best rotation in baseball and the pen has tightened up, Hand has been lights out this year.

[CenTexDave]

Bieber goes for his 7th win tonight against KC

[CenTexDave]

Tribes lack of offense leads to 2-1 loss. Bieber did his job - 6 IP, 6 Ks, 0 ERs.

[CenTexDave]

5-0, Tribe in 2d inning. 3 HRs- Lindor, Perez and Reyes. Reyes having a helluva year

[CenTexDave]

6-1 top 7th. Rain delay

[CenTexDave]

10-1, top 8th

[CenTexDave]

Bieber named AL Pitcher if the Month. Also leads the league in ERA and Ks

[CenTexDave]

And wins. ��

[CenTexDave]

2-0 TRIBE. top of 5th. Naquin 2 run homer

[CenTexDave]

Tribe takes it 5-0. Naquin 2 HRs and 4
5 RBIs. Better yet Chisox are losing

[Rick]

What a night for Naquin.

[CenTexDave]

And Reyes leads the league in hitting

[Rick]

Tribe got beat by the Brewers 7-1.

[CenTexDave]

Carrasco is not doing badly The bullpen let down last night and no hitting

[sojourner truth]

Carrasco is not doing badly The bullpen let down last night and no hitting

Ah. They have Rangeritis....

[CenTexDave]

Tribe winning 3-2 in the 7th. Ramirez 2 run HR. Only 4 hits. Pathetic. Santana not even batting .209. Lindor has turned into a joke. If some idiot team will pay him $300M then good luck

[CenTexDave]

Bullpen blows another one. Now 3-3 in the 9th

[CenTexDave]

Tribe wins it 4-3. Hernandez walk off single in the 9th

[Rick]

Won today's game 4-1.

[CenTexDave]

Another Bieber gem - 0 ERs 10 Ks. Chisox and Twins also win. 3 bunched at the top. Now KC comes in for a 4 game series

[Rick]

Twins lost to the Tigers.

[CenTexDave]

Tribe bests KC 5-2. At one point we lead 2-0 but had no hits. Plesac's ERA now less than Bieber's

[CenTexDave]

Bullpen couldn't hold the lead tonight.

[Rick]

Chicago ended up losing too. Twin won, so they are 1/2 game out with CLE and CWS tied for 1st.

[fchafey]

I am sure you are tracking, the Indians will be on MLB tonight at 6PM. Spectrum 93. Was watching a little bit of the Yankees/Toronto game last night when they advertised it. enjoy.

[Rick]

Tracking now! Thanks for letting us know.

[CenTexDave]

Cookie Carrasco takes the hill for the Tribe tonight. Need a good outing from him. He's looked pretty good the last couple times out after some shaky starts earlier

[CenTexDave]

Tribe has forgotten how to hit. Losing 1- 0 too of 6th. A wasted start by Carrasco. KC pitcher is Duffy - average at best. Cleveland is great at making an average pitcher look like a Cy Young candidate

[Rick]

No offense, mistakes on defense. 3-0.

[CenTexDave]

Time to bench some of these millionaires

[Rick]

At least they weren't Detroit. They lost 19-0...lol

[mac]

Hallelujah! The Rangers finally got one.......not that it matters much this year though.....

[Rick]

At least they weren't Detroit. They lost 19-0...lolOr the Marlins who gave up 29 runs in a 29-9 embarrassment to the Braves.

[CenTexDave]

If they are struggling like this against the Royals I gate to see what's gonna happen the last 2 weeks of the season when they have 2 key series against Chicago and the Twins

[CenTexDave]

Here we go again - down 3-0 in the 3rd. No hits yet. I notice Ramirez has not been in the lineup the last couple games. Don't know if he's hurt or they just giving him a rest

[CenTexDave]

Now 7-0, KC in the 7th. Tribe doesn't even have a hit yet

[CenTexDave]

11-0, 9th inning. Appt to report the Tribe finally got a hit. One whole hit. Pathetic

[Rick]

11-1 final. Pathetic.

Ramirez is nursing an injured hand

[CenTexDave]

Final 11-1. KC pitcher was a rookie. Too bad he didn't get a no hitter

[CenTexDave]

And now drop the series opened to the Twins 3-1. Now 2.5 back and 15 games left. Does not look good

[Rick]

Lost 8-4 last night. They aren't even trying.

[CenTexDave]

That's 5 in a row. Ramirez is back and had two hits but it's all but over. At least now we can shift to the Browns and complain about them

[CenTexDave]

Ravens kick off and Baker already throws an INT��

[CenTexDave]

13 hits 11 left in vasexand drop another one. That's 6 in a row. They won't even make the wildcard

[Rick]

They won't do #### in any post season any way.

[CenTexDave]

It's become almost comical, but at least last night it went 10 innings before losing 3-2. What's that -, 7 losses in a row?

[Rick]

I think that's eight. Like I said, they have just given up.

[CenTexDave]

Is tonight the night? Bieber on the mound. 1st inning Rameriz went deep.

[Rick]

5-0 Ramirez homered in the 4th.

[CenTexDave]

10-0. The bats finally woke up. Another gem by Bieber. And the Browns are looking good leading 21-13 at the chalf. Mayfield gas been sharp

[CenTexDave]

Final 10-3

[CenTexDave]

Tribe wins a squeaker 1-0. A gem by Zach Plesac -7 IP, 5 hits, 11 Ks. Hand gets the save plus both the Twins and Chisox are losing

[CenTexDave]

Plesac threw an "immaculate inning" last night. 9 pitches, 9 strikes, 3 Ks.

[Rick]

If only the bats had supported the pitchers this year.

[CenTexDave]

Obvious changes needed. Naylor has proven to not be the answer. Santana is showing his age. Need Mercado to return to yesteryear and Zimmer to start hitting. Perez still cant hit

[Rick]

This is a shock! Must be some kind of mercy rule.

Ramirez has been on fire lately.

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[Rick]

Tribe wins 7-4!

[CenTexDave]

Santana went deep also

[Rick]

Seattle won, so the Indians didn't clinch!

[Rick]

Tribe wins. Ramirez hit a three run walk off home run in the 10th.

[CenTexDave]

Tribe wins in 10 s Ramirez belts his 17th HR

[CenTexDave]

That win clinched a playoff berth for them. They're playing good now

[Rick]

Hopefully, they will keep playing good.

[CenTexDave]

Going into the 6th tied 1-1. Santana went deep in the first, then closed out the 4th by striking out with the bases loaded

[Rick]

Ludlow hit a walk off home run in the 9th...lol

[CenTexDave]

Again no run support for Bieber. He should have 12 wins

[Rick]

Did you hear about Clevenger? He pitched one inning and had to go due to injury.

It seems the Tribe's doctors are also fortune tellers. Kluber, Clevenger.

Bauer is still doing good in Cincinnati. He is a contender for the NL Cy Young. I wonder how many Clevelanders will send him a drone if there happens to be an I-71 series...lol

[fchafey]

Cleveland played their way to 4th seed. They get the Yankees. Wow. Good luck.

[CenTexDave]

They will probably need it but they did have the better record

[Rick]

If only they didn't have that eight game losing streak. But they really poured it on the last week of the season.

They definitely are going into the playoffs with a hot streak.

[fchafey]

They definitely have the harder road. They win against the Yankees, the Indians will most likely see the Rays.

[Rick]

Bieber got lit up for a two run home run in the 1st. Ugh.

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[Rick]

5-1 one out in the 4th. Jeesh!

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[fchafey]

The second pitch Bieber threw was a high strike. He didn't get it. The 4th pitch of the game Aaron Judge, wow. The Indians aren't quitters. We will see..

[Rick]

7-2 in the 5th. Debate time.

[fchafey]

The debate is terrible, I switched to Tiger winning the Open in 2000.....11-2 Yankees.

[fchafey]

Not rubbing salt or being a wise guy, but today Bauer went 7.2 innings. 2 hits 0 walks, 0 runs and 12 KO's. Was his price tag too big for Cleveland? Tonight the Indians have a guy going out there with a 3. 5 ERA against Tanaka. Unless the Yankees are tired from running the bases, this may be a real short series.

[CenTexDave]

The Tribe never makes a good trade. Kluber, Bauer and Ckevebgerxall Gabe. We did get Naylor, bother then a great night last game he hasn't done much. Reyes has proven to be a good bat. Makes me wonder what they'll settle for Lindor

[Rick]

Bauer would still be there if he hadn't lost his temper and thrown the ball over the center field fence last year. He's a competitor. A little crazy though.

[fchafey]

I also see Clevenger is off the Padres WC roster. He is injury prone, though I like him. I remember Bauer throwing that ball, had forgotten about it. He is a good pitcher.

[CenTexDave]

Sure he's crazy, but he's really good and will probably win the NL CY Young. It's all very tonight. Look for Lindor to be unloaded tonight

[Rick]

Great start tonight. Rain had a two delay lead. Idiot MLB and their stupid decisions.

Tribe started hot scoring 4 in the 1st. 4-1 after 2.

[Rick]

Carrasco got in trouble and loaded the bases. Then the reliever gave up a grand slam. Dammit!

[fchafey]

I couldn't stay up. I just read 10-9 Yankees. Wow.

[Rick]

I fell asleep after the Yankees took the lead in the 5th or so. I figured the season was over at that point. Glad I didn't stay up. Huge disappointment all around this year. I had planned on going to Cleveland on a vacation and going to a couple of games. Oh well. Maybe next year.

Alomar kind of proved that he isn't manager quality. A lot of people thought he was.

Lindor has been a huge disappointment at the plate. He is too busy always trying to be cute. His stock went way down the past two years.

Can't blame the bats for last night's loss. Score nine runs, you should win.

I like Naylor's intensity. I hope they keep him.

[fchafey]

I am not a Yankees fan. I am an Aaron judge fan. A baseball player that's 6'7'' and 282. I wish my dad was around to see that. Randy Johnson was 6'7'' but certainly no where near 282. I agree with you about Lindor. Naylor was a nice add from the Padres.

[CenTexDave]

Unload Lindor before other teams see his the worth. Ramirez has a great season. Find a SS and aotg OF. Santana is showing his age

[Rick]

Keep Santana. He is still as good as a lot of the younger guys. He is a leader and they need that.

[CenTexDave]

I never said to get rid of him, but time to start planning for his replacement. He hit under .200.