Deleted Posts from Shooting Thread

[CenTexDave]

I thought this board was started to exchange ideas and viewpoints.
Now you have become like the Killeen Daily Herald's comment forums.
Just because a few people don't agree with what he said, and I believe that he just plain did not express himself well and it came out wrong, you delete him.

[Scarlett]

Yes. I did. And yes, I will continue to do so. ON THIS TOPIC.

And no, I will not apologize for it.

[blueeagle]

We are not discussing an inane subject, we are disussing a young man's life. Respect is the word, not someone pushing for an argument.

[Rick]

I moved these posts here so that our actions can be discussed.

Like I said in that thread, this tragedy touches a lot of people in the community and on this site. Let's give those who are sad a venue to express their sorrow without negative dscussion. I don't think thta is too much to ask.

I don't think it means the end of CTT as we know it. Things like this are different and very sensitive.

Thanks

Rick

[mac]

wrong blue eagle! we're discussing a young man's death, not his life......mac (now i s'pose someone will find that offensive too)


We are not discussing an inane subject, we are disussing a young man's life. Respect is the word, not someone pushing for an argument.

[mac]

rick: might it not be helpful to post the posts that you found objectionable with explanations as to what made them objectionable? it would certainly help me, that's for sure......mac (to be honest and frank with you i did not know that that other chain was meant to be a venue for folks to express their sorrow....i had no idea that that was what it was for.........mac (what happened to the deleted posts? are they forever lost in cyber space?)


I moved these posts here so that our actions can be discussed.

Like I said in that thread, this tragedy touches a lot of people in the community and on this site. Let's give those who are sad a venue to express their sorrow without negative dscussion. I don't think thta is too much to ask.

I don't think it means the end of CTT as we know it. Things like this are different and very sensitive.

Thanks

Rick

[Scarlett]

They exist. But they will not be reposted. Rick and I have access to them. There is no need to explain it to you. I am sure you understand.

[mac]

nor will i ask you for an apology! you are what you are, you do what you do. put that in your pipe and smoke it......mac (but you must know that you're biting the hand that feeds you......i know you do)


Yes. I did. And yes, I will continue to do so. ON THIS TOPIC.

And no, I will not apologize for it.

[mac]

how can you be sure i understand? i honestly don't! so, are they only available to you and rick and not to me?......i would like to review them to look for the attacks or accusations i made......mac


They exist. But they will not be reposted. Rick and I have access to them. There is no need to explain it to you. I am sure you understand.

[Scarlett]

1. I don't smoke
2. I don't bite
3. You don't feed me

[xzochye]

(but you must know that you're biting the hand that feeds you......i know you do)

Hilarious! :))

[Scarlett]

how can you be sure i understand? i honestly don't! so, are they only available to you and rick and not to me?......i would like to review them to look for the attacks or accusations i made......mac

Well then I guess yraafi. If Rick wishes to tutor you on decorum 101 that is between you and him. I won't pull them back up for you.

[blueeagle]

Please, please make the WTF button available to all of us because I need it here!

[mac]

you have to admit, scarlett, that i take a whole lot more abuse than i dish out.........mac


Well then I guess yraafi. If Rick wishes to tutor you on decorum 101 that is between you and him. I won't pull them back up for you.

[mac]

xz: are you on my case too?......mac


Hilarious! :))

[xzochye]

xz: are you on my case too?......mac

Mac if you had a case worth standing on :doh

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. If you would that this thread and several others would be a dozen or so posts shorter.

[mac]

and you think that would be a good thing?.....mac


Mac if you had a case worth standing on :doh

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. If you would that this thread and several others would be a dozen or so posts shorter.

[xzochye]

and you think that would be a good thing?.....mac

Without a doubt.

[mac]

i would gladly admit i'm wrong if only one of you all would show me where i'm wrong! i want to do that......badly! being wrong is not a good thing.......being right is much better. help me out here........mac


Mac if you had a case worth standing on :doh

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. If you would that this thread and several others would be a dozen or so posts shorter.

[xzochye]

i would gladly admit i'm wrong if only one of you all would show me where i'm wrong! i want to do that......badly! being wrong is not a good thing.......being right is much better. help me out here........mac

It has been pointing out to you in the KHS thread and others but you refuse to see it. If you don't want to acknowledge it no once can change that. It's already been attempted and it was a wasted effort. Just like this conversation.

[Texas Immigrant]

mac, It doesn't matter to me that you stopped your formal education in the 6th grade, what matters to me is that you think everyone is against you. I don't think that's the case. Where your problems began was when you said something about wanting to look at the toxicology report before we heaped on the laurels. THAT was a dumb thing to say. Not because you are dumb, I'm certain you aren't, but because sometimes it's better just to keep quiet. I don't really know in what context that would have been okay to say. This was a young man that had every right to be where he was. He wasn't breaking any laws, and that comment was completely uncalled for. Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you should. I'm sure you didn't mean to sound callous, that's why I tried to give you the hint about the foot in your mouth.

[Rick]

how can you be sure i understand? i honestly don't! so, are they only available to you and rick and not to me?......i would like to review them to look for the attacks or accusations i made......mac



I'm not your social conventions coach. I have tried to explain it and asked you nicely to give it a rest and you just keep "gnawing on that bone". Your own words.

[mac]

why are all you all avoiding showing me my "accusatory" post? it woulkd be much easier to do that than to dance all around it. show me the beef!......how in the world can i do a mea culpa if you won't even show me the sin?.......some of you guys are worse than the inquisitors.......PLEASE tell me what accusation i made that was inappropriate so i don't repeat my error.......mac


It has been pointing out to you in the KHS thread and others but you refuse to see it. If you don't want to acknowledge it no once can change that. It's already been attempted and it was a wasted effort. Just like this conversation.

[mac]

social conventions? ok, that's a start.......maybe. not quite sure i know what that is but at least it's a step.....mac


I'm not your social conventions coach. I have tried to explain it and asked you nicely to give it a rest and you just keep "gnawing on that bone". Your own words.

[Texas Immigrant]

... you said something about wanting to look at the toxicology report before we heaped on the laurels. THAT was a dumb thing to say...


....PLEASE tell me what accusation i made that was inappropriate so i don't repeat my error.......mac

See above. It doesn't get any plainer than that. Your post has been deleted, so I can't quote it and show it to you. If you can't remember typing that, then you might have bigger problems than poor social skills.

[cnjbond]

I think someone is getting a big kick out of all this attention that doesn't seem to be slowing, even though we ALL know it's serving no purpose.

[mac]

well, unlike you i did not and still do not know that "he wasn't breaking any laws".....but i'm starting to get get the drift. it appears as though the forum is drifting into a "political correctness" attitude....don't say anything that might possibly offend someone....and i'm definitly not PC so i'll have to give you that. suggesting that someone, a minor, leaving a club at 2:30 in the morning after having spent the last 6 hours in there .........well, i guess i'll just leave it at that...thanx, tex.....'ppreciate your intents re the hoof and mouth thing too but no problem, i wear the deletions and blocking like a badge.....mac


mac, It doesn't matter to me that you stopped your formal education in the 6th grade, what matters to me is that you think everyone is against you. I don't think that's the case. Where your problems began was when you said something about wanting to look at the toxicology report before we heaped on the laurels. THAT was a dumb thing to say. Not because you are dumb, I'm certain you aren't, but because sometimes it's better just to keep quiet. I don't really know in what context that would have been okay to say. This was a young man that had every right to be where he was. He wasn't breaking any laws, and that comment was completely uncalled for. Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you should. I'm sure you didn't mean to sound callous, that's why I tried to give you the hint about the foot in your mouth.

[Grammar Rules]

Good grief. Mac, I don't know why, but I'll try. Remember when you puffed up with indignation when some suggested in another thread that your (once) teenage daughters had, like every other teenage girl in the USA, LIED to you at some point? Some of us assumed that they were capable of mischief.
None of us knew them, but we know human nature.

Now, turn the page. Many of us in Killeen and KISD do know the Cannon family. You presumed to assume that the victim and his sister had some responsibility. You implied late hours in a club. Long hours in a club. Suggested a toxicology report. Suggested enabling by the older sister. And now, after your hand is called on all the above, you have the unmitigated temerity to suggest this is political correctness?

Don't even go there. You are acting like a rude pig.

[Grammar Rules]

With a capital F. I.

[bbh]

I agree with TI. Your statement about waiting for the toxicology reports before heaping laurels was a dumb thing to say. It was also callous and unfair. Let's assume the worst, that the reports come back to show that he had been drinking or had drugs in his system. That would not mean that he deserved to die that night, nor would it erase 18 years of being a "good" kid. He would still deserve to be remembered for a life well-lived, not for one night of self-indulgence and lack of good judgment.

Also, mac, as has been pointed out, there are people on this forum who knew him and who know his family. They are grieving for their friends, and your attitude is thoughtless and hurtful. Isn't it ironic that you are so quick to play the "wounded CTT poster" ("they're all gangin' up on me"...mac) but are also so quick to hurt others with your unfeeling remarks? Parents lost their son. Siblings lost their brother. Try biting your tongue while you step off that high horse.

One more thing, I don't buy the aw-shucks-uneducated-persona and never have. It takes a quick mind and fast fingers to leave off all those letters at the beginning and end of words....complete with apostrophes in all the right places.

it's jus' irritatin'.

[Scarlett]

Irritatin' yes....but ohhhhh so fun to mock on ladies night. I do a great impression...LOL.

[xzochye]

Irritatin' yes....but ohhhhh so fun to mock on ladies night. I do a great impression...LOL.

Yes, you do!

[Scarlett]

One more thing, I don't buy the aw-shucks-uneducated-persona and never have. It takes a quick mind and fast fingers to leave off all those letters at the beginning and end of words....complete with apostrophes in all the right places.

it's jus' irritatin'.

It cracked me up when I read this last night. My friends and I were laughing about this and we said the same thing! I said that there is no way it is easier to type that way. It is darn near IMPOSSIBLE on a smart phone with autocorrect, not to mention the amount of time it takes to add the punctuation...other than the famous....you know....dots....that never end.....
And right before you posted this I was in the middle of a conversation with another user about the same thing! I said if...IF...he really was this mentally low on the totem pole, I might feel bad because he really wouldn't have a clue. But no way in hell he is. He knows exactly what an F.I. he was being. The only thing more irritatin' than stupid people is people who aren't and pretend to be.

[sojourner truth]

I'm not sure, but I think that is about as close to a compliment as you're going to get from Scarlett Mac.. Either that, or you've just been insulted for being a phoney. So, lets see...You are now either an F.I., Or very smart. How about a sexual inellectual?...(An F'n knowitall). Nope, don't need any more of those around here, that's for sure. Obscene namecallers either. Better go find a hidey hole for a while.

[pioneer]

i thought we are not calling other members names on this forum ?

[cnjbond]

I think the mac bashing has run it's course myself....

[mac]

the rules only apply to some of us, pioneer, you didn't know that?....mac

i have to admit, though that i sure didn't know that some of these "ladies" were such "potty mouths".....AND they're teachers too!....mac


i thought we are not calling other members names on this forum ?

[mac]

yeow, grammar, i remember the liar string...what i don't remember, though, is me gettin' all bent out of shape and calling any of you vile and pornographic names or referring to your lack of intellegence....i don't remember doing any of that.

you say that i presumed to assume that the victim and his sister had some resonsibility. now, just how in the world could you know what i presume to assume? but just to make it clear, no i do not assume....or even believe that his sister(s) had any responsibility what so ever in their brother's shooting....but then again, i was not in the club but then again, it doesn't matter, the only one responsible for the shooting is the shooter.

you say that i implied late hours in a club. i did not imply any thing. the KDH said or implied they were but not me. hell, i wasn't even there!

you say i suggested a toxicology report. nope, i didn't suggest any such thing. i would probly rather that there not even be a toxicology report performed on him. i think you're confusing my suggestion to read the report before telling all of us out here how great a man the victim was....

you say i suggested enabling by the sisters. again, not true...that's something yoiu just flat made up....i didn't suggest anything about the sisters enabling i certainly hope that didn't happen....my goodness, that would be just terrible if that were to have happened......

well, if it's not PC i smell, then maybe it's just that some things are off limits....some folks just naturally hate questions and, i guess, consider a question to be an allegation or statement...or insinuation or anything but a question. actually, come to think of it, i do 'member telling my daughters that some questions are better left unasked..........and then you had the temerity to call me a "pig". my oh my.....sure hope rick doesn't block you for that....he prob'ly won't. i'll ask him not to.....mac


Good grief. Mac, I don't know why, but I'll try. Remember when you puffed up with indignation when some suggested in another thread that your (once) teenage daughters had, like every other teenage girl in the USA, LIED to you at some point? Some of us assumed that they were capable of mischief.
None of us knew them, but we know human nature.

Now, turn the page. Many of us in Killeen and KISD do know the Cannon family. You presumed to assume that the victim and his sister had some responsibility. You implied late hours in a club. Long hours in a club. Suggested a toxicology report. Suggested enabling by the older sister. And now, after your hand is called on all the above, you have the unmitigated temerity to suggest this is political correctness?

Don't even go there. You are acting like a rude pig.

[Grammar Rules]

Cry us a river, mac. You implied all of that, and the deletion of the posts isn't a deletion from the memories of all who read them.

I said you are ACTING LIKE a rude pig (and added with fallacious implications.) Don't stand up for me, ok? Thanks anyway.

[mac]

well....the record will just have to speak forself. one of us is obviously wrong.....or lieing....oops! i forgot, scarlett has access to all my postings and has pulled them...so, i have no idea what they may say now....mac


Cry us a river, mac. You implied all of that, and the deletion of the posts isn't a deletion from the memories of all who read them.

I said you are ACTING LIKE a rude pig (and added with fallacious implications.) Don't stand up for me, ok? Thanks anyway.

[Rick]

Mac, you asked to have it explained to you and it has been, but you continue to deny what everyone read.

Unless Scarlett has anything to add, this thread is done. Thanks for playing.

Oh and I hope we stop the name calling through anagrams.

[Scarlett]

Unless Scarlett has anything to add, this thread is done. Thanks for playing.

Oh and I hope we stop the name calling through anagrams.

I'll only add that calling someone a funny intellectual isn't really THAT bad...is it? ;)

[Rick]

My bad! :))