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May 31st, 2019, 6:10 PM
#51
Well, a lot of what people do not realize with solar and alternative power solutions is that they cost more than fossil fuel produced electricity. Mostly to pay for the construction and maintenance of the power production sites.
If America really got serious about clean, cheap energy they would opt for nuclear. Obama made the regulations so restrictive on power plant production so fierce that new plants are not being considered, much less built. Same thing for newer fossil fuel plants. There was a reason for this when he did it, and I am sure we all know what that was. Actually, getting more regulations and money were in there as well as a green agenda.
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June 2nd, 2019, 4:33 AM
#52
Today's solar panels amortize really well in a market where electricity is $1.75 per KWH.
At 15 cents per KWH, not so much.
I don't mind being called far right.
I have been right so far.
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June 5th, 2019, 7:56 AM
#53
Nuclear is unpopular as an energy source, as one has to do something with the plutonium as it is consumed, and if I remember correctly, the waste byproduct(s) is/are highly radioactive for DECADES...need to find a place to store it until such time as it it "safe enough" to store normally.
And reprocessing the waste only turns it into something that can used only for creating MORE nuclear weapons, I vaguely recall...
"Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says." 'Argument Clinic', Monty Python's Flying Circus
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June 5th, 2019, 8:41 AM
#54
According to MIT Technology Review, nuclear power costs $92 to $132 per megawatt-hour generated, solar power comes in at $72 to $86 per megawatt-hour, and onshore wind at $37 to $81 per megawatt-hour. Power from natural-gas-fired plants is cheaper than either nuclear or solar at $61 to $87 per megawatt-hour, thanks mainly to gas derived from fracking in U.S. deposits. This makes natural-gas plants, rather than nuclear plants, the leading option.
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June 5th, 2019, 1:18 PM
#55
Originally Posted by
Ludwig
According to MIT Technology Review, nuclear power costs $92 to $132 per megawatt-hour generated, solar power comes in at $72 to $86 per megawatt-hour, and onshore wind at $37 to $81 per megawatt-hour. Power from natural-gas-fired plants is cheaper than either nuclear or solar at $61 to $87 per megawatt-hour, thanks mainly to gas derived from fracking in U.S. deposits. This makes natural-gas plants, rather than nuclear plants, the leading option.
Would love to drill down into those numbers in the study,
but don't have time to
The cost for solar is quite a (huge) bit low, compared to the
studies I did a few years back. Me-thinks, they fudged it.
I don't mind being called far right.
I have been right so far.
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June 10th, 2019, 9:31 AM
#56
Just from memory, Three Mile Island is the reason no new nuclear power plants are considered or built. I still agree with that.
mat
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June 10th, 2019, 11:59 AM
#57
Originally Posted by
mat
Just from memory, Three Mile Island is the reason no new nuclear power plants are considered or built. I still agree with that.
mat
After Three Mile, there was a nuke plant in Texas that was finished (Glen Rose).
"Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says." 'Argument Clinic', Monty Python's Flying Circus
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June 10th, 2019, 12:28 PM
#58
Originally Posted by
gnatsum
Nuclear is unpopular as an energy source, as one has to do something with the plutonium as it is consumed, and if I remember correctly, the waste byproduct(s) is/are highly radioactive for DECADES...need to find a place to store it until such time as it it "safe enough" to store normally.
And reprocessing the waste only turns it into something that can used only for creating MORE nuclear weapons, I vaguely recall...
Store it in California, Oregon, New York, and New Jersey...multitude of problems solved
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June 10th, 2019, 12:52 PM
#59
The government wants to store it in Nevada and Nevada says, "Um, we don't produce this ####, why should we store it?"
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June 10th, 2019, 1:54 PM
#60
Originally Posted by
mat
Just from memory, Three Mile Island is the reason no new nuclear power plants are considered or built. I still agree with that.
mat
more folks were killed at chappaquiddick bridge than at three mile island......mac
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