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April 25th, 2021, 4:00 PM
#21
Originally Posted by
mac
that many fail to fires sounds more like a primer problem than anything else to me. it's happened to me a couple of times........mac
Naw, it was a "paying attention to what was actually said" problem.
I didn't read carefully.
He didn't say they didn't fire.
He said they didn't eject.
The loads didn't have enough powder to properly eject.
I don't mind being called far right.
I have been right so far.
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April 25th, 2021, 11:00 PM
#22
The biggest problem with accuracy is the user of the weapon.
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April 26th, 2021, 4:36 AM
#23
Originally Posted by
Night Owl
The biggest problem with accuracy is the user of the weapon.
That is the case with me, at least nowadays it is.
When I was in the AF, I shot expert, almost every time I went to an AF range.
When I went to an Army range, I got a wake up call.
It was one of those with the automatic pop up targets, rather than the paper targets I was used to, and I found that, while I didn't have much trouble hitting a target, I was too slow at acquiring the next target. I lost a lot of points because the target would drop before I could get the shot.
These days, my eyes are not so good, and my hands shake a bit. I joke about "hitting the broad side of a barn from the inside," but the reality is I am just good enough to pass the proficiency test for Texas CCW. Not sure about rifle, as my right eye is damaged. I need to get a mount so I can put a red dot scope where I can use my left eye to aim.
I don't mind being called far right.
I have been right so far.
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April 26th, 2021, 11:52 AM
#24
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April 26th, 2021, 12:26 PM
#25
Originally Posted by
Mestral
Naw, it was a "paying attention to what was actually said" problem.
I didn't read carefully.
He didn't say they didn't fire.
He said they didn't eject.
The loads didn't have enough powder to properly eject.
i think you mean "extract" and not "eject"....but what the hay.....mac
Live as if you were living a second time, and as though you had acted wrongly the first time.
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April 26th, 2021, 12:41 PM
#26
Originally Posted by
mac
i think you mean "extract" and not "eject"....but what the hay.....mac
I think you think wrong.
I was the one that posted the original statement in post #8
some range reload 9mm that every 5th round or so won't fully eject due to low load of powder.
The spent casing is extracted from the chamber.
The spent casing is not fully ejected from the weapon.
The slide moves forward and is stopped by the partially ejected casing.
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April 26th, 2021, 12:49 PM
#27
Originally Posted by
kantwin
I think you think wrong.
I was the one that posted the original statement in post #8
The spent casing is extracted from the chamber.
The spent casing is not fully ejected from the weapon.
The slide moves forward and is stopped by the partially ejected casing.
Some pistols will stop with the empty casing sticking out of the ejection port, an effect a lot of hand gunners call a "stove pipe"
A bit of twisted humor, M230 (replaced the M-60) crews call something different "stovepipe."
The M230 has a bad habit of the extractor tearing the backplate off the expended round, and feeding the next round into the chamber, ramming it into the remains of the spent cartridge. Once you are able to extract it, the two shell combo looks like a joint in a stovepipe.
Last edited by Mestral; April 26th, 2021 at 12:51 PM.
I don't mind being called far right.
I have been right so far.
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April 26th, 2021, 1:17 PM
#28
Originally Posted by
kantwin
I think you think wrong.
I was the one that posted the original statement in post #8
The spent casing is extracted from the chamber.
The spent casing is not fully ejected from the weapon.
The slide moves forward and is stopped by the partially ejected casing.
sorry, but powder and recoil have absolutely nothing what so ever to do with ejection. Hells bells, you can even eject manually with no powder or recoil....a bolt action ejects, a single shot ejects, a lever action ejects....mac
Live as if you were living a second time, and as though you had acted wrongly the first time.
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April 26th, 2021, 1:31 PM
#29
Originally Posted by
mac
sorry, but powder and recoil have absolutely nothing what so ever to do with ejection. Hells bells, you can even eject manually with no powder or recoil....a bolt action ejects, a single shot ejects, a lever action ejects....mac
If powder and recoil have absolutely nothing to do with ejection, I'd be interested in hearing your theory on how a semi-automatic pistol performs the complete firing cycle, then.
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April 26th, 2021, 1:57 PM
#30
Originally Posted by
kantwin
If powder and recoil have absolutely nothing to do with ejection, I'd be interested in hearing your theory on how a semi-automatic pistol performs the complete firing cycle, then.
He's doing word play between ejection(the process of removing the spent case from the action). And extraction (removing the spent case out of battery; extraction from the chamber)