https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/n...ts-race-tracks
I wonder if they would have objection if someone flew the ISIS flag.
Then again, other spectators would probably beat the living daylights out of someone for flying the ISIS flag.
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/n...ts-race-tracks
I wonder if they would have objection if someone flew the ISIS flag.
Then again, other spectators would probably beat the living daylights out of someone for flying the ISIS flag.
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Once upon a time an army respected and honored the ones they defeated. For the bravery of the fight. A worthy enemy.
It's in that, an Army can claim it's own honor and prowess. Something to judge itself against.
Because if you don't respect your fallen enemy. You're nothing but predators with no honor. Cowards with guns. The Kings guard.
There's a reason behind the flag and statutes and it's going to be lost. The Union government will never change.
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actually we didn't. we hanged, slaughtered, killed and butchered them...............macOriginally Posted by Grasshopperglock
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what ever "statutes" are you referring to?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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No ####, Mr Mac. Your use of certain pronouns can really lead a thread in a direction.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you have any clue to why the best and the deadliest military equipment has the names of the deadliest enemies?
Why do we have Apache helicopters, Blackhawks, tomahawk missiles, Chinook?
Why is the Confederate flag displayed in the Union army in the first place? Why is it there?
Answer the questions, Mr Mac. Before you go off on a tangent on what is military honor.
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The one in front of McDonald's. The clown dude. That statue.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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There was one story I saw years ago, that claimed that naming military bases after Confederate "heroes" placated the folks who lived south of the Mason-Dixon line, who still carried a grudge against the North for EVERY thing they did to the South, during AND after the War!!
Read in a book about President Harry S Truman, that his parents were 'split' in supporting sides during the Civil War. One parent (forgot which way the split went) was a staunch anti-slavery group, and the other supported slavery. After HST graduated from high school, he joined the Missouri National Guard, and wore his uniform home. He was in the home of one of his grandparents, and it was the side that supported slavery. That grandmother SCOLDED Harry, stating that he would NEVER be welcome in HER house, in THAT uniform, as long as SHE was alive... he got the message.
Oh, and since this is now on renaming bases, here's a story on how far the issue reaches in Washington DC...
Message to Rick: Gotten a bit harder to copy and paste outside text to be quoted in these posts. Apparently, the process has quotation marks and apostrophes turned into QUESTION MARKS, and i wind up having to fix them individually to make the quote sensible lookingSenate Armed Services on collision course with Trump over Confederate names
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Senate Armed Services on collision course with Trump over Confederate names
The Senate Armed Services Committee on Wednesday voted to require the Pentagon to rename military bases and other assets named after Confederate generals, a move that puts the Republican-led panel on a collision course with the White House.
The committee adopted an amendment to the annual Pentagon policy bill that gives the Defense Department three years to remove the names of Confederate generals from U.S. military assets, according to a source familiar with the closed-door proceedings.
The language, adopted by voice vote as President Donald Trump preemptively threatened to veto any defense bill that did just that, affects massive bases like Fort Bragg in North Carolina and Fort Benning in Georgia. But it also goes further and includes everything from ships to streets on Defense Department property.
Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren offered the provision, which she previewed on Twitter.
"I filed an amendment to the annual defense bill last week to rename all bases named for Confederate generals. It's long past time to end the tribute to white supremacy on our military installations," Warren tweeted Tuesday, though it was not clear at the time if the amendment would be offered, or if it had any chance of success.
The Massachusetts senator, a former presidential hopeful, tweeted in response to an opinion piece published by The Atlantic from retired Gen. David Petraeus, calling for renaming military forts.
"As I have watched Confederate monuments being removed by state and local governments, and sometimes by the forceful will of the American people, the fact that 10 U.S. Army installations are named for Confederate officers has weighed on me," Petraeus wrote.
The amendment would require the Defense Department to set up a commission to develop a plan to implement the renaming, according to the source familiar with the text.
Wednesday?s scheduled White House press briefing was delayed while the administration prepared a statement expressing Trump?s opposition to renaming as many as 10 military bases, citing by name Fort Bragg and Fort Benning, as well as Fort Hood in Texas.
"The president will not be signing legislation that renames America?s forts," White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in response to a question from CQ Roll Call. "Fort Bragg, for example, it?s one of the largest military installations. It?s home to tens of thousands of brave American soldiers, and when you think of Fort Bragg, we think of the brave soldiers that deployed from there."
The effective veto threat sets up a standoff with Capitol Hill, with House Democrats likely to advance similar provisions in that chamber?s defense authorization, especially after the Senate committee action.
This would be the 60th consecutive year for the defense authorization to become law, if it makes it that far.
Elsewhere in Congress, Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California has formally requested the removal of 11 Confederate statues from the National Statuary Hall Collection.
?While I believe it is imperative that we never forget our history lest we repeat it, I also believe that there is no room for celebrating the violent bigotry of the men of the Confederacy in the hallowed halls of the United States Capitol or in places of honor across the country,? the speaker wrote in a letter to the leaders of the Joint Committee on the Library, which is overseen by the leadership of the House Administration Committee and the Senate Rules and Administration Committee.
But the adoption of the amendment at the Senate Armed Services panel Wednesday has ramifications far beyond the Capitol itself, with an array of Defense Department properties bearing the names of those who took up arms for the Confederacy and against the Union.
The showdown comes amid the administration?s aggressive response to nationwide protests following the May 25 killing of George Floyd, an African American man, while in Minneapolis police custody.
Among those most critical of Trump was his first Defense secretary, Jim Mattis, a retired four-star Marine general who has significant support from both parties on Capitol Hill.
The post Senate Armed Services on collision course with Trump over Confederate names appeared first on Roll Call.
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oh, I thought you said "statute"! Silly me. I apologize for my mistake....macThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
OOPS.....I just went back and took a looksee and I take back that apology. You did, indeed, say "statute", not statue. Give me back my apology!.....mac
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There'a story online today about a NASCAR Truck Series racer who announced that he is QUITTING racing in NASCAR because of NASCAR's stance regarding the Confederate flag issue. Forgot his name (), but he's not one of the top drivers. Think the story said he had ONE top ten finish in five years of racing in the Truck series...
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And of course we all have seen them tearing down the statues of that famous confederate general Christopher Columbus, right?
Fort Floyd, here we come. Seems the military leadership has gotten pretty week kneed lately on backing Trump. Hmmmm. I always though that Generals made it that far up the chain not for their incredible battlefield skills as much as their ability to safely traverse mine fields. Gotta have all those stars to prop them up due to a lack of spine.
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