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    Well, Mac was right... Philip is at the lower end of the short list. ANd the news announced that he would be something like 7th in the line of succession.

    That day will never come. The thing about Harry is that he is known as "the spare" in case William has something happen to him. Will and Kates kids would get the throne before any of Harrys kids.

    One interesting thing was mentioned in that this baby would be the first child ever eligible to be either the King of England or the president oif the US. All theoretical of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner truth View Post
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    Well, Mac was right... Philip is at the lower end of the short list. ANd the news announced that he would be something like 7th in the line of succession.
    When she was born, Victoria was fifth in line. Of course Parliament has been known to ignore the rules of succession entirely as it did when Charles I was beheaded to be succeeded by Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell and when the Catholic James II was replaced by his Protestant daughter, Mary who ruled jointly with her husband William. William and Mary left no children following their deaths so Parliament decided to go with Mary's sister Anne and her line which put the monarchy in the family of the German Hanoverians which produced Victoria and her cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Together, Victoria and Albert had about nine children that married into the royal families of most of Europe including the Hohenzollerns and Romanovs.

    The Windsors are really Hanoverians that adopted the name Windsor during WWI when they found it difficult to carry the name Saxe Coberg-Gotha while at war with their cousins in Germany.



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    Yep... King George had to refuse Tsar Nicholas (his cousin) sanctuary in England prior to him and his family being "removed" from power. I once saw a picture of George and Nicholas side by side and they were like looking at identical twins.

    The German connection did cause the name change to Windsor due to the hatred the English had towards the Germans during the lead up to WWII. The King of England was actually considering a different name than Windsor, but Windsor was the quintessential English name and won out.

    One can generally trace German nobility when the last names are hyphenated or preceded by a "Von" or something.
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    Czar Nicholas and King George or Nicki and Berti as they called one another.


    Nicki with cousin Willi.

    Victoria's youngest grandson, Prince Charles Edward, got ground between the royal gears.

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    There "needs" to be a clear line of succession regarding the British monarchy. Have you not seen the movie 'King Ralph'? The comedy's plotline is that the ENTIRE British royal family and several 'guests' are snuffed out during a group photo (electrocuted by a stray power cord on a wet lawn, IIRC), so the British government does a search for ANY viable 'related-by-blood' people who could become Great Britian's new monarch, and it is "discovered" that an American entertainer (played by John Goodman) is the sole "heir" to the throne (there's a twist thrown in near the end of the movie in which Ralph discovers someone else who is eligible to rule Brittania, and he defers to that person...).




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    There "needs" to be a clear line of succession regarding the British monarchy.
    Supposedly there is a clear line of succession that the "Windsors" will claim has been followed since Alfred the Great in 871. There have been changes of course but the survivors that went on to rule and write the history always take great care to point out that they really had the better claim and no, there was no hanky panky involving the queen while the king was busy in Normandy and Aquitaine. If you don't believe them just rest your head on this block until you're able to see things more clearly.

    Of course there are historians that will still maintain that by the rules of succession the wrong folks are sitting on the throne. The following is the case as presented by one historian:


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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner truth View Post
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    Well, Mac was right... Philip is at the lower end of the short list. ANd the news announced that he would be something like 7th in the line of succession.

    That day will never come. The thing about Harry is that he is known as "the spare" in case William has something happen to him. Will and Kates kids would get the throne before any of Harrys kids.

    One interesting thing was mentioned in that this baby would be the first child ever eligible to be either the King of England or the president oif the US. All theoretical of course.
    Remember - that's how Liz II ended up on the throne. Had "naughty David" not abdicated, his kids (if any) would be in line. Liz would have remained HRH the Princess Elizabeth. Harry may end up King, if something happens, the Archie. King Archie? Will Betty, Veronica and Jughead have titles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txswimmer View Post
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    Remember - that's how Liz II ended up on the throne. Had "naughty David" not abdicated, his kids (if any) would be in line. Liz would have remained HRH the Princess Elizabeth. Harry may end up King, if something happens, the Archie. King Archie? Will Betty, Veronica and Jughead have titles?
    seems to me that prince william's kids come before harry........
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    Harry is sixth in line.

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    Now I am curious if it is Archie or Archibald.... Either way it is not high on my list of chosen names for a child.

    But the important thing is, as my wife reminded me, ten fingers and ten toes and they all work... Best I can remember from my daughter is that the first thing that seemed to work was her diaper filler. Hard for me to imagine that she is already 38 years old.
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