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    Quote Originally Posted by txswimmer View Post
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    Funny, Christ healed for free, and he never asked whether or not someone "deserved" healing. For those who claim we are a Christian nation, yet would deny help to those in need - God Bless you - I just don't understand.
    You are right: you don't get it.
    Christ healed for free.
    He didn't ask Peter to pick up the tab for it.

    Christ had the right to heal,
    but Peter didn't have the right to tell Mary Magdalene she had to pay for Lazarus to be healed.
    (Which is the equivalent of what you advocate "talking about")

    Thanks, but this is a conversation we had. Twice.
    Once in 1993, and once in 2013.
    The answer was NO, and still is NO.

    We don't need to discuss it again, with a new batch of socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txswimmer View Post
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    ...If you had a family member dying of a curable illness who could not afford to go to the doc, and you did not have the resources, I am sure you would want some help for them.
    I would never, never go to the government for assistance. I would not need to because A. I am self-insured because I lived a frugal life and set funds aside for an emergency rather than fulfill my material wants. B. None of my family members fear suffering nor death because they understand from where it comes and to where they are going. C. We trust in the providence of God and wish only to do His will. (Not listed in order of priority.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by txswimmer View Post
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    Funny, Christ healed for free, and he never asked whether or not someone "deserved" healing. For those who claim we are a Christian nation, yet would deny help to those in need - God Bless you - I just don't understand.
    We are under God, but there is no basis for any claim that we are a Christian nation. I have a mandate from my God to help those in need. I do so by paying my taxes, from which a good share goes to that purpose, and I give to many charitable organizations of my Church. My donation to help those in need far exceeds the tithe. If the government were to reduce my taxes, I would increase my free-will offerings accordingly because that is my preferred way to help others. It rankles me when my resources are confiscated under the force of arms or threat of imprisonment.
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    John CarterWe need more Texas in Washington and Less Washington in Texas!
    What a line of B.S. I got in the mail today. There is no doubt that he has supported the nation's soldiers and veterans. He has also done a lot of good for Fort Hood. What he has been really unresponsive to is the needs of his permanent constituency in his district. I will vote for him under duress because there is no one viable running against him but he's pretty sorry.
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    A lot of the arguments I have against the system stem from the age old complaint of need versus greed, and who gets what. Same old argument about those who chose to be professionally needy and those who are genuinely in need because of unfortunate circumstances. A lot of the problems stem from irresponsibility and life choices of those who have their hands out, along with the folks who game the system. If it weren't for those factors, I think fewer people would be against giving up their hard earned money.

    I suppose one of the things that gets my goat is seeing folks get the same things for free and without earning them as I do after working for 50 years to get. Especially if they are not legally here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txswimmer View Post
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    Of course. Look, it all comes down to how we raise (and spend) the 3.3 trillion that we are already spending. Can we do better with a single payer? I think not. A two tiered Medicare approach? Maybe. Private insurance mandated? We tried that. Letting people die because they can't or won't get insurance. Survival of the fittest, I guess. Charity? My preference for a lot of things is charity. Americans are generous (there are a few skinflints, in all economic ranges). I just would love to see a working group of representatives locked in a room until a workable solution emerges. Kicking the can down the road and yelling don't work.
    I worked in the medical field for over 30 years. I never heard of anyone letting someone die because they did not have insurance.

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    That is because it doesn't happen... The med staff may ask questions about insurance, but that does not stop the practice of saving a patient in need. Nobody asked for my ID card when they hauled me off the top of Ripcord either... Thank goodness. I didn't have one on me. At least I don't remember having one. Guess my dog tags were all they needed... That and the blood pouring out of the wounds. The uniform probably gave it away though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just2cents View Post
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    I worked in the medical field for over 30 years. I never heard of anyone letting someone die because they did not have insurance.
    me neither but, I do remember when they first started lettin' the bean counters go into the ER to interview patients........can't help but think that that has to be some sort of detrimental to the patient's state of mind, who isn't covered for squat when that happens.......but I guess it has to be.....mac "ok, mr patient......sure does look like you're bleedin' a lot.......now then, who are you insured with and for what?........

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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner truth View Post
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    A lot of the arguments I have against the system stem from the age old complaint of need versus greed, and who gets what. Same old argument about those who chose to be professionally needy and those who are genuinely in need because of unfortunate circumstances. A lot of the problems stem from irresponsibility and life choices of those who have their hands out, along with the folks who game the system. If it weren't for those factors, I think fewer people would be against giving up their hard earned money.

    I suppose one of the things that gets my goat is seeing folks get the same things for free and without earning them as I do after working for 50 years to get. Especially if they are not legally here.
    what i don't understand is how is it possible for someone to be panhandlin' at a stop sign when the unemployment rate is only %3.4.....which, btw, happens to be a record low......Cruz will be there too.....mac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
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    What a line of B.S. I got in the mail today. There is no doubt that he has supported the nation's soldiers and veterans. He has also done a lot of good for Fort Hood. What he has been really unresponsive to is the needs of his permanent constituency in his district. I will vote for him under duress because there is no one viable running against him but he's pretty sorry.
    what federal level needs of "his personal constituency has he been unresponsive" to? Please be kind of specific. I will be seeing him a week from tomorrow and would love to talk to him about those needs......mac

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