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May 15th, 2017, 12:48 PM
#21
That's probably the wisest thing to do. If the roots grow under the foundation it could cause you all sorts of big time problems.
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May 15th, 2017, 3:11 PM
#22
Yeah... That is the problem with my ash trees... They have gone under the driveway and busted it up in a few places, and have trunk feelers all over the back yard.
Ash trees are popular because they grow very fast and provide a lot of shade. They are short lived because they are soft wood and susceptible to borers and then go in a few years. I have a Texas ash in the front yard and it is doing great. Harder wood. The Arizona ash in the backyard is hanging by a thread, and whenever I cut off a dying limb I can spot the borers inside. They cut off the flow of juices from the root to the leaves and interrupt photosynthesis killing the tree a little bit at a time.
Most professional landscapers call the m Arizona trash because the contractor slaps them in the yard and they grow quick... And that's fine until it dies a bit later and then you have to get rid of the poor thing.
Whenever planting a tree in all of this Calichee laden soil of Texas, the secret is to dig your hole and then use a tankers bar to bust through the calichee layer so that a tap root can get established. If you don't, you get what I have... Trunk roots that can only go a foot deep and then spread out to the whole yard to get water instead of going down. Beautiful shade tree, but root issues.
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May 15th, 2017, 4:10 PM
#23
When I bought my first house on Fleetwood, I put in 2 Arizona ash trees in the back yard. The trunks were about 2 inches in diameter.
I dug down about 4 or 5 inches, and hit that hard clay. I used a pick axe and tanker bars to bust through that. It was about 6 or 7 inches thick. I made that hole about 2 1/2 feet in diameter.
10 years later, those trees had grown to maybe 5 inch diameter. So, not so fast growing, in my opinion.
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May 15th, 2017, 5:17 PM
#24
Poplars grow extremely fast, but if you don't trim off the branches that are continually popping out from the trunk near ground level they will
look hideous.
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May 15th, 2017, 7:11 PM
#25
Originally Posted by
kantwin
When I bought my first house on Fleetwood, I put in 2 Arizona ash trees in the back yard. The trunks were about 2 inches in diameter.
I dug down about 4 or 5 inches, and hit that hard clay. I used a pick axe and tanker bars to bust through that. It was about 6 or 7 inches thick. I made that hole about 2 1/2 feet in diameter.
10 years later, those trees had grown to maybe 5 inch diameter. So, not so fast growing, in my opinion.
I had a huge Az. ash in the back yard, and then planted a Texas ash in the front. The Texas ash caught up to the other one in 5 years and grew like it was on steroids.
Of course, that may be due to the fact that it was planted directly over the sewer line running from the house to the street. Both are still alive, but the one in back is sicker than a Marine on shore leave.
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May 15th, 2017, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
fchafey
Arizona Ash, Silver Maple are two excellent trees for this area. One major problem is one should have 2-3 feet of topsoil for them to really thrive. With only 2-3 inches of topsoil thrown on the ground in these developments the roots don't go down far enough then spread. So yes 20 years of you are lucky and if one like trees then one trades the trees for lawns. I can already see a few spots where the roots have found rock underneath and are cruising just under the top soil surface. I had a French drain sunk in the back yard and the picture I got while deployed of trench show roots not very far down. In my back yard I have 2 Crepe Myrtles, 2 Pear Trees, Pin Oak, Silver Maple, and an Arizona Ash. In the front I have an Oak and it is already messing with the circle landscape around the base as well as the concrete ring.
if your oak tree is "live oak", you'll alwys have that tightly woven circular mass of roots up near the top. it's just the way live oaks are. most of us on here are really on 2 levels (strata) of lime stone, not just one. You've got that first one down 4 maybe 5 inches and it's about 6 inches thick but then you have about 18 or 20 inches of good stuff before you hit the 2nd layer. If you're plantin' a pecan you gotta break a hole through both layers because pecans have a tap root that wants to go straight down......but in any case, for every tree, you need to break though that first top layer of limestone....mac
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May 18th, 2017, 6:00 PM
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Are the leaves rough like fine sandpaper? It still looks like a hackberry to me.
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May 18th, 2017, 7:05 PM
#28
Originally Posted by
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Are the leaves rough like fine sandpaper? It still looks like a hackberry to me.
looks similar from 10' away or so but all oaks are either lobed or toothed. hackberry's are toothed. this tree doesn't appear to be toothed...it's far fetched but it wouldn't s'prise me but what if it wasn't a hybrid hackberry/red tip photina......but if I had to bet some real serious money on it, I'd bet it was a sugarberry.....mac
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May 18th, 2017, 7:37 PM
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May 18th, 2017, 11:16 PM
#30
Originally Posted by
kantwin
Not quite.
Ever heard of a laurel oak? I have a few of those in my yard. They put out leaves like this -
neither either lobed nor toothed.
Willow oaks are similar as well.
are you sure a laurel oak ain't a laurel and a willow oak not a willow? I ain't got a clue but my guess is that neither one of 'em are true oaks.....mac
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