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    Quote Originally Posted by onetime View Post
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    ... While I would never advocate something as barbaric as a baby muzzle or sound canceling device, which I'm sure is in the development,
    I find it interesting that you mention these items, specifically,
    since the item in question uses "sound canceling" materials,
    which isn't barbaric at all.

    .... I'm good with it in church as people may not have a babysitter and may not feel comfortable leaving their infant in a nursery. Just saying
    Not surprising, since your contempt for Christianity is pretty well known. I know of at least one church, BTW, that built a room in the back just for those mothers with crying babies. Complete with speaker connected to sound system, so they wouldn't have to miss out.


    http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/omg/foo...aby-muzzle.asp
    I feel like Americans might not like the Baby Muzzle too much. Partly due to its stifling of children's innate behaviors and oxygen supply, and partly due Americans' desire to be offended and outraged by things. But just as barking dogs and smacking gum are considered unfair strains on strangers in public, so too are loudmouthed mini-mes. The Baby Muzzle simply suggests that those unaffiliated with a child's conception should not have to listen to it cry.
    I find the bold part particularly true.

    Oh, and here is another article. I like the 5th picture the best (the red head).
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    Most larger churches I've been to, have nursery rooms for babies and toddlers. Can't swear to all of them (any? one?) having connections to worship services via audio/video, but the tech is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnatsum View Post
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    Most larger churches I've been to, have nursery rooms for babies and toddlers. Can't swear to all of them (any? one?) having connections to worship services via audio/video, but the tech is there.
    Yes, the nursery, located at the other end of the building,
    also had a speaker, at one time. Don't know if they maintained it,
    as the leadership in that church changed and I left, because
    of a dispute about which way their doctrine was turning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mestral View Post
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    Yes, the nursery, located at the other end of the building,
    also had a speaker, at one time. Don't know if they maintained it,
    as the leadership in that church changed and I left, because
    of a dispute about which way their doctrine was turning.
    Not surprised by that. 'Turning' the doctrine will often upset some churchmembers enough for them to either leave, or contact the church's synod/leadership about a new pastor/leader. My paternal grandparents went to a little ol' Baptist Church in the country in Mississippi, and they got a new pastor who apparently rubbed some of the congregation the wrong way (I never did hear all the details on that), so someone in that church went up the 'chain of command' and requested a new pastor, who was willing to, I guess, maintain the status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mestral View Post
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    I find it interesting that you mention these items, specifically,
    since the item in question uses "sound canceling" materials,
    which isn't barbaric at all.

    Not surprising, since your contempt for Christianity is pretty well known. I know of at least one church, BTW, that built a room in the back just for those mothers with crying babies. Complete with speaker connected to sound system, so they wouldn't have to miss out.


    http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/omg/foo...aby-muzzle.asp
    I find the bold part particularly true.

    Oh, and here is another article. I like the 5th picture the best (the red head).
    I think you misread my intent on church, let me elaborate for you. One's spirituality should not be denied because they've had a child. Christianity is about procreation and one's opportunity to practice their Christianity at a place of worship should not frowned upon based on their decision to procreate. I meant that for those reasons I don't have a problem with people bringing their kids to church in fact I think it's the right thing to do. Not sure why you believe I have contempt for religious affiliations seeing as I am a Christian and a member of a few churches since I'm in different cities from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnatsum View Post
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    Not surprised by that. 'Turning' the doctrine will often upset some churchmembers enough for them to either leave, or contact the church's synod/leadership about a new pastor/leader. My paternal grandparents went to a little ol' Baptist Church in the country in Mississippi, and they got a new pastor who apparently rubbed some of the congregation the wrong way (I never did hear all the details on that), so someone in that church went up the 'chain of command' and requested a new pastor, who was willing to, I guess, maintain the status quo.
    There is a certain amount of variation in doctrine we should be open to,
    but beyond that, especially if the Pastor is teaching error, we need to
    either stand against him (quietly, first, in his office) or get out.

    This one was placing a great deal of emphasis on "The Law" to the
    point of neglecting Grace and Faith. At the time, I was not prepared
    to stand up to him in a theological discussion. Today would be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetime View Post
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    I think you misread my intent on church, let me elaborate for you. One's spirituality should not be denied because they've had a child. Christianity is about procreation and one's opportunity to practice their Christianity at a place of worship should not frowned upon based on their decision to procreate. I meant that for those reasons I don't have a problem with people bringing their kids to church in fact I think it's the right thing to do.
    While Christianity is not "about" procreation, it is encouraged. Other than that, I agree with you.


    Not sure why you believe I have contempt for religious affiliations seeing as I am a Christian and a member of a few churches since I'm in different cities from time to time.
    I have never heard you take a stand in defense of Christianity,
    when it is attacked by liberalism, socialism, LBGT, etc.

    I doubt it would take take me long to check your stance, though.
    I don't mind being called far right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetime View Post
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    ....... Christianity is about procreation......
    not so.....mac

    oops! Mestral and I were inputting at the same time. sorry 'bout that....mac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mestral View Post
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    While Christianity is not "about" procreation, it is encouraged. Other than that, I agree with you.



    I have never heard you take a stand in defense of Christianity,
    when it is attacked by liberalism, socialism, LBGT, etc.

    I doubt it would take take me long to check your stance, though.
    Don't take procreation so literally. Fact check me all you want I've said this multiple times there are issues that I'm not necessarily into but I'm not going to judge how someone else chooses to live when it doesn't infringe upon others. Two guys kissing or a guy and a girl kissing are equally annoying to me but you have the right. I think I've stated my one hang up is the restrooms as it turns into a safety concern, not for transgenders, but plain old fashion pedophiles and other creepy crawlers that just use it as another opportunity. I believe that Christianity isn't about denouncing but welcoming, faithfully and blindly accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and reforming to get closer to god, seems as if people have forgotten why their ancestors came here for one reason or another. On a separate note mestral what are your thoughts on abstinence? Pornography? Children out of wedlock? Couples playing house? Cheating on ones spouse? I'm asking because those are all things that are viewed as sinful behavior but should the government regulate those vices? If not why not, as in where do you draw the line? I'll wait for your response as I'm always interested in the opinions of others.

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