yeow, i saw that....but haven't seen any 'horticulture' in a "failure" mode......and i'm one of those who still take the farm bureau magazine AND the Wallace Farmer.....Seems like it just keeps gettin' better and better......I mean, Good Lord! Our horticulture, our agriculture is feeding so many more people today than it did a century ago it's almost unfathomable. For some good fun and eye opening info, compare how many folks a typical rice paddy or corn field will feed today as compared to even a decade ago, let alone a century......macThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote