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    Imagine taking one of Norris' kicks in the chest, full force. That is what you'd feel, if you took a hit in the chest.
    Now, imagine taking one to the face. It would be about as quick(According to Mr Fitzowen).
    An auto cocker works pretty quickly. A hit in the face or the chest might not kill, instantly but at 10' the target would have to stand up, again.
    Fitzowen uses steel wire rope (cable) for bowstrings and spring steel prods on his bows.
    I also have a couple swords, but I ain't what I used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronErnin View Post
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    Imagine taking one of Norris' kicks in the chest, full force. That is what you'd feel, if you took a hit in the chest.
    Now, imagine taking one to the face. It would be about as quick(According to Mr Fitzowen).
    An auto cocker works pretty quickly. A hit in the face or the chest might not kill, instantly but at 10' the target would have to stand up, again.
    Fitzowen uses steel wire rope (cable) for bowstrings and spring steel prods on his bows.
    I also have a couple swords, but I ain't what I used to be.
    what's the "draw" on your cross bow.....and how long does it take you to set her up ready to release the bolt?.....sorry, Iron, you don't have that much time. you and your's are dead......or worse......mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
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    what's the "draw" on your cross bow.....and how long does it take you to set her up ready to release the bolt?.....sorry, Iron, you don't have that much time. you and your's are dead......or worse......mac
    Well we have drifted a tad off topic.
    This is supposed to be about guns.

    Back on that subject, I want to note that most things in firearms are trade offs. A longer barrel will provide better aiming (not to important in close quarters) but also provides more muzzle velocity (always important), but slows the process of bringing the gun to target. This isn't usually a problem until you get more than about 5 inches of barrel length.

    A laser aiming device is very helpful in putting the round on target, but good ones are fairly expensive.

    And don't forget to budget for ammo, both for the range, and defensive ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mestral View Post
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    Well we have drifted a tad off topic.
    This is supposed to be about guns.

    Back on that subject, I want to note that most things in firearms are trade offs. A longer barrel will provide better aiming (not to important in close quarters) but also provides more muzzle velocity (always important), but slows the process of bringing the gun to target. This isn't usually a problem until you get more than about 5 inches of barrel length.

    A laser aiming device is very helpful in putting the round on target, but good ones are fairly expensive.

    And don't forget to budget for ammo, both for the range, and defensive ammo.
    actually, barrel length has very very little to do with velocity. I checked it out once with a chronograph and the difference is negligible. a carbine shoots dammed near as fast a a rifle.....although there IS a small, very small difference....mac

    Iron: i'd still like to know what the draw is on your cross bow.....mac (if you don't mind)
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    SHoot.. I have a closet full of arrows and 2 pretty decent bows. But those are for the end times after the ammo runs out.

    And I can't envision a scenario where I would run out of ammo.

    The only advantage a bow and arrow have is silence... And the victim will have to cooperate when he sees a 2 foot long shaft protruding from his heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
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    actually, barrel length has very very little to do with velocity. I checked it out once with a chronograph and the difference is negligible. a carbine shoots dammed near as fast a a rifle.....although there IS a small, very small difference....mac
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    Most noticeable for shorter barrel lengths.

    http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/38special.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mestral View Post
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    Most noticeable for shorter barrel lengths.

    http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/38special.html


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    looks 'bout right......for pistols, but as I stated, I was talkin' shoulder weapons.....carbines, rifles and the like......for example, the 700 compared to a 600 or 660......in .243 or 6mm.......mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
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    looks 'bout right......for pistols, but as I stated, I was talkin' shoulder weapons.....carbines, rifles and the like......for example, the 700 compared to a 600 or 660......in .243 or 6mm.......mac
    I understood that, but it was confusing to some of those new to firearms, and that is who I write for.
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    I've been thinking about this thread and have a question. I keep a 45 in the nightstand and a 380 in my easy chair. While i practice on the range and am proficient with both weapons, I'm an educator not a trained professional with a weapon. If an intruder breaks in during the night I should be able to get to a firearm easily enough. But seeing/aiming in the dark is a concern. What can I do to improve this?
    Cheap motion lights plugged into the wall. I hadn't thought to use these for intruders. I use them in the halls next to the bathroom when company stays for a while.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Good-Choic...Light/17279128

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    Quote Originally Posted by HistoryTeacher View Post
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    Cheap motion lights plugged into the wall. I hadn't thought to use these for intruders. I use them in the halls next to the bathroom when company stays for a while.
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Good-Choic...Light/17279128
    I don't have an outlet in the right place for this, but it would be great for someone who does.
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