Junior Seau

[Rick]

They are thrust into the limelight (yes, by choice) then, like turning off a light switch, they are just "regular guys" the entourages are gone, the praise is gone and all that's left is the physical pain from the years of abuse. Is knowing that you have to live the rest of your life with ever worsening pain temporary?

Yes, suicide is unfair to the ones left behind and can seem like the act of selfishness and that of a coward. It's still sad.

[jimbob]

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They are thrust into the limelight (yes, by choice) then, like turning off a light switch, they are just "regular guys" the entourages are gone, the praise is gone and all that's left is the physical pain from the years of abuse. Is knowing that you have to live the rest of your life with ever worsening pain temporary?

Yes, suicide is unfair to the ones left behind and can seem like the act of selfishness and that of a coward. It's still sad.

You seem to have all the answers.

[sojourner truth]

I have "ever worsening pain" called "degenerative bone deterioration of the lower spine", and it will never get any better, only worse. I would never consider suicide...while there is life there is hope. They may devise a cure tomorrow, for all I know. Still, I was unaware of the fact that he had an uncurable, painful health condition. I suspect that his reasons for taking his life were from pain not related to physical pain. If he could see the pain in his poor mothers face today, I wonder if he would change his mind. True strength of character is not giving up the fight even when you know you can't win. If nothing else I would like to think of junior, it would be that he was a fighter despite the odds.

[Rick]

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You seem to have all the answers.

I know, it's a hell of a cross to bear.

Or is it bare?

[Ang]

I always wonder how it could be so bad that you lose your survival instincts

[cityboy]

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Suicide... the highest form of narcissism and cowardice. RIP... whoever you are.

My grandfather committed suicide about 25 or so years ago, and it had nothing to do with narcissism and cowardice. He was an old man whose health was failing, and his daughter (my aunt) was about to put him into a nursing home, as he could no longer adequately care for himself. His own mother had lived for a long time in a nursing home, and he did not want that for himself. So he ended his life. I actually think it was a lot more brave than cowardly ...

[harleygirl]

http://deadspin.com/5907297/the-nigh...with-a-ukulele

I seen this on facebook

[sojourner truth]

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My grandfather committed suicide about 25 or so years ago, and it had nothing to do with narcissism and cowardice. He was an old man whose health was failing, and his daughter (my aunt) was about to put him into a nursing home, as he could no longer adequately care for himself. His own mother had lived for a long time in a nursing home, and he did not want that for himself. So he ended his life. I actually think it was a lot more brave than cowardly ...

No, it wasn't brave. It wasn't cowardly either...it was selfish. And I don't mean to speak poorly of your grandfather..I'd say the same thing about my own grandfather if he'd done that. I've already told my wife and daughter that when I am no longer able to care for myself, they are to put me in a nursing home. I know too many people who are in one, and doing just fine.

[cityboy]

I'm not so sure it was selfish. I understand why it might be considered selfish, but not sure I agree. In his mind, he had become a burden to his family, and so he relieved them of that burden. That is unselfish, isn't it?

[Night Owl]

Depends on the lens you look at the world through.